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DogoMatic's avatar

I have the sneaky suspicion that a lot of our fellow citizens welcome state micro-management. Freedom is tough, it requires engagement, having opinions, exercise agency, getting your hands dirty. You must have skin in the game. Some people just don't have the energy or find it beneath them to get involved or even express an opinion. They will just get along. The logical panacea for these individuals is then a state that regulates all the interactions among individuals, establishes rules and as David said, "optimizes" continuously. These individuals are happy to trade off liberty to have the state t to do the thinking for them. And voila’…the state is happy to oblige and has an endless source of anesthetized supporters who will take their bromide and never threaten state primacy regardless of the predominant political party in power.

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Vivian Evans's avatar

Thank you - this analysis explains much of which I was only dimply aware.

Regarding China: Starmer, as Leader of the Opposition, not only did nothing to rein in Lockdown, he and his Party wanted it to be harder. It's worth remembering that one of the SAGE members remarked that they were surprised that people so easily complied with these 'chinese' restrictions. So it doesn't come as surprise to me that this PM is very much drifting in that direction, with the first hints of the Chinese 'social credit' being felt.

I wonder if one ought to demand that, for the sake of 'equality', Ministers, top civil servants, MPs , judges etc should give us a shining example and restrict their ;income', their salaries, expenses etc to the equivalent of the median income. After all, they're paid out of our taxes and The State is short of money. This would only be fair, wouldn't it.

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