Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Chris Bateman's avatar

Another brilliant and timely piece, David. Two minor comments.

Firstly, it is potentially misleading to view the top-down vision of the state (shepherd-sheep) as having an interest in 'equality', since the bottom-up vision is equally interested in 'equality' - just a different meaning of 'equality'! This is a highly disputed term that is massively overloaded (I realised this issue in my book Chaos Ethics, long before I appreciated its direst consequences). There is some legerdemain involved in 'equality of outcome' approaches; these are frequently concerned with redress and could ultimately never reach a balance point, so 'equality' only has a role by analogy in such approaches. This is parallel to the debate in US jurisprudence regarding 'civil liberties versus civil rights'. I dislike this framing: 'civil rights' in this case are attempts at positive redress, and so this gerrymanders the meaning of (negative) 'rights'.

Secondly, I have been working on this problem (replacing the left-right divide with a meaningful framework) for a few years now, but success requires not only working metaphors but also to provide them in a way that can be taken up more widely. The problem with the Oakeshott framework is that these terms simply aren't going to make it out into common parlance, and although it is strange to be writing that Foucault does a better job in popular clarity here (!), his terms are also unlikely to gain wider traction. Success may also require reframing this issue into at least a three cornered struggle. A tangent for another time, perhaps.

Please keep going! As someone on what used to be 'the left', I view the path you are treading here as much more productive than anything coming from my side of the Old Republic these days.

Expand full comment
2 more comments...

No posts