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Helen's avatar

Perhaps the only way we can rise to it is by strengthening the bonds of trust we have with anyone around us, being honest about our limitations, being very conscious of how this atomisation has become so prevalent. Included in this is a consciousness of how beholden we have become to the financial system, particularly our mindset of constant lack and scarcity. "Cost Of Living Crisis!!!" It leads us sociopathically to attempt to screw over others and forget that we are all in this together. Just to feel we have enough money not to go under at some point. Add to that how the education system encourages us to compete with our peers just to find a place in life, and the countless TV shows reinforcing this mindset...

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Ariane's avatar

With the Race Relations Act an injured person could sue for racism with no need for a witness. Before the RR Act, racist behaviour always needed a witness to be successful. I don't know what the situation is for sexist behaviour (words and actions.)

What J said to N was definitely sexist. Racist and sexist behaviour have always succeeded (racists and misogynists have always got away with their behaviour) due to 1) lack of witnesses, and 2) the claim that what was said was 'just banter' or 'just a joke' or 'just something between us', 'something cultural which she didn't get' etc. Any changes in the law which make racist and sexist behaviour punishable are a good idea.

People will use the law to get justice and money. Perhaps one cannot always describe what happens as the fault of governments and bureaucrats wanting to govern making us all siblings. The more aware and educated people become, the more assertive they will be (hhopefully) and use facilities for their own advantage. And quite right too that this should happen since such assertiveness is necessary to challenge a system which continues to be hierarchical and exploitative.

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David McGrogan's avatar

I accept the point you’re making. The question is where the line is drawn. At what point do we say that the law goes too far? For example, should a male employee be entitled to sue a female employer for harassment if she jokingly teases him about ‘man flu’? Do we want to live in a society in which that is possible? I don’t.

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Mike Hind's avatar

Separate, but related ... In the 90s me then wife wanted to go part-time after the birth of our child. This was refused. Her union took it to industrial tribunal, where she won the 'right' to go part-time. This was on the basis of an anti-discrimation ruling that a man would not have made the request under identical circumstances, so the issue wouldn't have come up for a man. Therefore she was being discriminated against. I was delighted, of course, but also failed to understand how this was even rational, let alone possible.

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Hywel Morgan's avatar

Your excellent yet depressing vignette put me in mind of the case of that man name of Rex, who, though deficient in sex, was accused for exposure. His judge, with composure, ruled "de minimis not curat lex".

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